Just Set Up A Website
KirstenStar
Publicado: martes, 07 de septiembre de 2010 16:16:51

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It is just a wee past 1am here and I just got 2 artist reviews live on my brand spanking new site. I am not really sure what I am doing here as I don't really understand how to use all these technical tools just yet but I think I have something passable. I would love to invite you guys to come have a look and tell me what you think, bearing in mind that it is still new and does not have lots of content yet. If you would be so kind as to check it out you can find it at Fairy Art
Bebops
Publicado: martes, 07 de septiembre de 2010 17:12:36
 Zazzle Proseller
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Well it sure looks like you know what you're doing. Very nice start. This will be fun to follow!
KirstenStar
Publicado: miércoles, 08 de septiembre de 2010 0:07:16

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Thanks for the feedback Grin
I seriously doubt the layout will stay the same as I try out templates and find the right one for the look I want. I was advised to use a particular template for its easy, haha, yea right! I couldn't figure out how to take off the naff banner even, so went looking for something more idiot friendly Laughing

I do have my first boarder line spammy comment tho! Less then 24 hours old and I got a slightly spammy comment "great designs, come read my blog". I guess that means it will get traffic then Idea

I will do a few more review pages today I think, and see if I can find a better layout for the pages, would like them organized and categorized in some fashion.
KirstenStar
Publicado: miércoles, 08 de septiembre de 2010 1:12:39

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Sure can't figure out how to alter the header, is there a better area for asking folks about how to use WP and such? I imagine this is not the best forum for me, having technicalAngry problems
poloponydesign
Publicado: miércoles, 08 de septiembre de 2010 3:53:51

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It's a wordpress blog right? using one of the developed themes?

Making the header smaller on those is a PITA and pretty in depth but I'll try and take a look later and see if I can help. I've used wordpress for a few sites over the last couple of years.

Edit: Was hoping that it had an internal style sheet... it doesn't... which mean I need the other computer to tell you how to change it...
KirstenStar
Publicado: viernes, 10 de septiembre de 2010 3:16:51

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poloponydesign - yup its wordpress with a theme installed (found something I liked that had the share me button integrated already and that was important to me). Hubby did try to have a look at the code (he is a flash builder so understands flash, actionscript and apple script. He is not so well versed in the script WP uses but he is better then I at figuring it out. We did managed to make the banner image area a bit smaller and then had to fix the text as it was totally wonky. I am not sure if its the best way to fix the problem or a good enough for now fix. I would like to understand how to find and tweak the bits of code that correspond to that part of the page so that if I change the banner and color scheme or whatever and it messes up the text again I know better how to alter the code properly Smile. If you have or know of a good how to article on word press code tweaking or what not I would love to have a link Grin
poloponydesign
Publicado: viernes, 10 de septiembre de 2010 5:01:17

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The layout code is all through pretty basic HTML and CSS (the building blocks of every website on the web... pretty much) but worpress creates the pages through..

From memory a wordpress page is split into four parts -

The header which has all the info in the "head" tags, then usually the top part if the page including the header, navigation and other basic elements. The file for this is a. file (which you can edit, most of it is HTML, just open in a text editor) usually named header. and located inside the folder for the theme that you're using. If you're changing the banner/header this is probably where you want to look so you can find out what the name of it is.

The second part is the "loop" this is a. file that defines how the content is displayed on the screen and the names of the parts into which it is divided, how many posts to show, etc. This can be pretty in depth. so make sure you save a copy before you change it just in case anything breaks :-).

The third part is the footer which contains all the information from the bottom of the content down. Some people have a site map here, designers credits, certifications, that sort of thing. most of this is just basic html as well with a small amount of..

The Final part and MOST IMPORTANT for layout is the css file. The file is also located in the theme directory and this is what defines where everything goes on the page, what the colors are, how they relate to each other, what sits on top of other stuff, all that juicy stuff. It is linked to each element in the html by names, classes and ids. The html file knows where to look for the layout information through a "link" tag in the header (the information part of the page before the content actually starts).

Now - to find out which part of the html file goes with which part in the css file is easy - look at the html surrounding the content you want to change and you will see a property labeled "id" "class" or "name" but usually "id" or "class". it will read something like:

Code:
<div id="example"> ... </div>

Code:
<table class="example">... </table>


Once you've found that go to your css file and bring up the search function. If the element had an "id" then search for (copying from the above example) "#example". If it has a class then search for ".example". When you find it you'll see a list of properties associated with it. Most of the ones you'll want to change have pretty simple names (like height, width, background-color, border, etc.) so they're easy to find. Some of the ones with crazy names I would leave alone!

Here are some other resources:
Wordpress codex/help and info site
W3 Schools - Great tutorials on most web languages

If you ever get stuck then google is usually the best place to start. Both those sites are well indexed so if they have the info google usually finds it and if they don't then google finds something else.

FYI You now know more about coding than about half the people that claim to be web designers... :-)
KirstenStar
Publicado: viernes, 10 de septiembre de 2010 8:44:30

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Laughing poloponydesign - you assume I wont need to read that over a few hundred times to get it (not sure I quite get it having read twice so far Stick out tongue )

The next problem I am having is with the rss feed for pages, I have tried a number of plug ins now and so far, buttkiss, nada. No rss feed but an error page, not sure if the rss for pages problem for my version of wp has been sorted, keep having a look around and hopefully at some point I will find the right fix Smile
FishTsdotcom
Publicado: viernes, 10 de septiembre de 2010 8:50:09
 Zazzle Proseller
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Im not positive on this, but it looks like so far you have created pages for each of the items you have listed in the links to the right.

If thats the case, then the base rss feed link that is in that theme is for feeds of articles you post, not the pages. There is a setting to change that, but would have to see the theme to find it. In some themes even, only articles written in the main blog category will show up in the rss feed dependant on how the author set it up.

Try writing just a couple jibber jabber articles under the base?main category and see if they then show up under your rss linked page.
KirstenStar
Publicado: lunes, 13 de septiembre de 2010 0:43:19

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First I want to say sorry for not replying sooner, did not see this post til now. I think I may have sorted it. Yes I am posting pages as opposed to posts and tried a few plug in's. I went slightly crazy when nothing worked until I decided to see the formatting of other rss url's and none worked. Not a single site I could find with rss would work on my browser. Thats when I tried another browser and I was able to see the rss page fine, looked good even. Lesson learned, browsers can be a pain sometimes!
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